Session Start: Sun Nov 30 19:29:09 1997
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<SammyFung> May you give me operator mode and change the topic of this channel ?
<vincent> ooo.. ok.:)
<vincent> I'll leave early today.
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<vincent> I can only attend to around 10:00pm...
<vincent> Sammy, can you take the responsibility of this meeting's leader and save the log? :)
<SammyFung> That's ok, I will. :)
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<Chicken> Hello friend
* Chicken slaps Chicken around a bit with a large trout
<vincent> hello hello! Sorry I'm doing something.. :)
<Chicken> No users login here ?
<vincent> Not too many... I hope.. ^_^;
<vincent> A few is ok..
<Chicken> :~~(
<Chicken> See you later
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<vincent> no one here?
<SammyFung> I am here.
<vincent> wuu.. only 2.
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<IHXO> helo how's it ? ^_^
<vincent> hello, you join la?
<vincent> :)
<IHXO> yeap ^<^
<SammyFung> Oh... Ben, you're welcome.
<SammyFung> There're 3 participants... It sounds good.
<IHXO> yeah really ?? there r only 3 person jar .....
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<deathscythe> hihi
<PiPPeN> hihi
<IHXO> hello ..
<PiPPeN> hihi
<SammyFung> Hello, Pippen and Death, you're welcome.
<SammyFung> Ok.
<SammyFung> Pippen, may you try to introduce yourself to others ?
<PiPPeN> I am PiPPeN BBS SYSOP
<PiPPeN> TEL: 2465-2067, DIAL NOW!
<PiPPeN> hahaaaaaa.
<SammyFung> No, Pippen, please don't laughing here.
<SammyFung> We're in serious.
<PiPPeN> oh.... then ho wto introduce myself to another ar?sammy?
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<Zephyr> Hi!
<PiPPeN> hi Zephyr
<SammyFung> Vincent, may you post the note again ?
<SammyFung> Hello Zephyr, it's nice to meet you here.
<Zephyr> thank you
<Zephyr> what note?
<IHXO> note ????????
<SammyFung> Vincent, may you post the note which lead people how to introduce themselves ?
<PiPPeN> I'm PiPPeN, MY REAL  NAME CALL "NG CHUN LUN" i also is linux user
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<SammyFung> Yes, note to teach you how to introduce yourself.
<PiPPeN> hi domdom
<[DoM]> hmm
<SammyFung> Pippen, may you introduce again ?
<IHXO> icic ..haha......
<SammyFung> Ok...
<[DoM]> hi.
<SammyFung> Serious...
<SammyFung> Pippen, you may start your introduction again.
<SammyFung> And then DoM introduce himself and next, Zephur introduce himself.
<[DoM]> uh
<SammyFung> Let's go.
<Zephyr> should i just follow Pippen 's introduction style ?
<SammyFung> Mmmm....
<SammyFung> Vincent, are you here ?
<[DoM]> oh?
<[DoM]> introduce?
<SammyFung> We had a style which we defined last night.
<Zephyr> oh i see
<PiPPeN> I'm PiPPeN, My Real Name call "NG CHUN LUN" , I'm PiPPeN BBS SysOp, i also is linux user
<SammyFung> Yes, dom, introduce yourself I mean... But....
<[DoM]> hmm... how'z the group's structure?
<SammyFung> Now, Pippen introduce himself first. Ok ?
<SammyFung> Pippen -> DoM -> Zephyr
<SammyFung> Let's go.
<SammyFung> Ar... No.
<SammyFung> Pippen -> DoM -> IHXO
<SammyFung> Zephur, did you come to IRC last night ?
<Zephyr> sorry, no
<PiPPeN> I'm PiPPen, my real name call "NG CHUN LUN".... I'm PiPPeN BBS SysOp...i also is linux user too.
<deathscythe> ...
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<PiPPeN> hihi.
<vincent> Sorry I'm back.
<IHXO> I am IHXO ... real name = Benjamin Sheung : nick name = IHXO : I am a student : a linux user ...... thatz 
   all .....
<SammyFung> Vincent, should new members introduce themselves ?
<vincent> Hmm....
<vincent> Depends on wheather they want to be our committe, I think.
<[DoM]> I'm [DoM] , my name is [DoM]iNiC, TRilliON BBS Sysop, 24/7 internet user, I have 5 computers, 2 modems, 
   will be a linux user soon..waiting for red hat 5.0 2morrow?
Session Close: Sun Nov 30 20:34:59 1997

Session Start: Sun Nov 30 20:35:13 1997
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<[DoM]> hoh
<SammyFung> No, I am not, Pippen. I just bought it yesterady.
<vincent> sorry I lost connection
<[DoM]> huhoh
<SammyFung> Now... this conference will be leaded by Vincent.
<[DoM]> :)
<vincent> Wait....
<SammyFung> Now, I pass the floor to vincent.
<SammyFung> Vincent please.
<PiPPeN> :O
<vincent> I'll leave around 10:00pm, if I lead the conference I'll be a big problem..
<IHXO> #_#
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<SammyFung> You may lead it until 10.
<vincent> Well.. ok.. who's turn?
<vincent> Note: Please tell us your personal, job, linux exp., specialty in linux, internet activities, and any 
<vincent> <vincent>   extra. :)
<PiPPeN> oh.. when 10.. the conference will finish?
<vincent> I'll leave.
<SammyFung> They introduced theirselevs quickly.
<vincent> just a quick intro.
<SammyFung> No, but Vincent will leave the conference.
<IHXO> just start ... ok ????
<SammyFung> Let's continue.
<IHXO> or Sammy lead lar ..
<SammyFung> No, I am doing something right now.
<vincent> erh...
<PiPPeN> umm.?
<IHXO> poor vincent ....... @_@
<PiPPeN> who start it first ar?
<SammyFung> And, VIncent kept records detailly.
<vincent> Me???? 
<IHXO> just continue lar....
<vincent> I'll be a great trouble to combine the two records...
<SammyFung> Vincent kept records detailly before.
<vincent> have you saved the log?
<SammyFung> OK... Let's start our conference.
<SammyFung> No.
<IHXO> otherwise we'll be thinking " who should lead" untill 10:00pm ....
<vincent> I lost the previous...
<vincent> go on.
<PiPPeN> ..?
<SammyFung> I just tick the automatic log on channel now.
<vincent> who is interested to be our committe?
<PiPPeN> me!
<vincent> Ok, others?
<IHXO> I think all the returned registration form said yes in this question ...
<vincent> I don't have the form now.. :)
<vincent> Sorry for that, then...
<vincent> short intro begin..
<Zephyr> i 'm new to linux, i think i cannot be a committe member, but i will help anything if i can
<vincent> Ok, I'll keep it as a record, Zephyr.
<PiPPeN> HI, I play linux about half year, My name is PiPPeN. i'm PiPPeN BBS System Operator
<SammyFung> I hopes... Pippen can really handle the duties in committee... (in serious...)
<vincent> Ok. :)
<[DoM]> :D
<[DoM]> what position in HKLUG?
<vincent> Chairperson, Secretary, Webmaster, Public Relations, Promotion Director
<SammyFung> I mean... I don't think Pippen can handle duties in committee in serious.
<SammyFung> Ha !
<vincent> plus - tons of web developers and promotors.
<PiPPeN> ....Sammy :Q
<[DoM]> ..
<vincent> OK.... PiPPeN continue.
<[DoM]> hmm..
<SammyFung> Let's me speak something first.
<[DoM]> so how many ppl is being the senior?
<SammyFung> HKLUG is an professional body, so our duties is in serious. That's all.
<SammyFung> Go on.
<[DoM]> hmm
<SammyFung> You mean members in committee, dom ?
<[DoM]> hmm..yes.
<SammyFung> Oh... there's 0 now.
<[DoM]> who is the prez and vice-prez?
<[DoM]> or?
<[DoM]> oh..i c.
<SammyFung> So, We would like to vote for committee members tonight.
<[DoM]> so what position can we do?
<SammyFung> Vincent have metioned in the above.
<PiPPeN> ...?
<SammyFung> Let's me quote it again.
<vincent> Chairperson, Secretary, Webmaster, Public Relations, Promotion Director
<SammyFung> Chairperson, Secretary, Webmaster, Public Relations, Promotion Directors
<vincent> :)
<SammyFung> Yes.
<[DoM]> wow
<SammyFung> Promotion Director-sssssss... (not just one)
<PiPPeN> ............. promotion dieector ..?
<vincent> Then these are not promotion director
<[DoM]> Hmm..
<[DoM]> Promotion..
<[DoM]> what'z the public relations?
<vincent> These are promotors I think. I also thinking does we really need a director for promotion.
<vincent> contact person.
<PiPPeN> promotion to where sin? internet or bbs?
<SammyFung> Its duty is promoting HKLUG to others.
<vincent> Any places.
<[DoM]> hah
<Zephyr> maybe i can post it to cityu newsgroup and bulletin boards
<[DoM]> I think i can handle the promotion job.
<SammyFung> Anywhere in HK
<PiPPeN> oh.ic
<[DoM]> hmm.. how bout the vice prez?
<vincent> The director is to guide the others the promotion jobs, I think.
<[DoM]> vice-Chairman?
<vincent> yes..
<PiPPeN> who is vice chairman ar?
<SammyFung> Or you may seprate some papers to your schoolmates in City in the tunnel to CityU, Zephyr.
<vincent> Does we have that many people...
<[DoM]> vice-chairmanzzzzzz
<[DoM]> ?
<[DoM]> haha
<vincent> Does we have that many people!
<[DoM]> i can find ppl from KCTI
<PiPPeN> ........
<PiPPeN> i can find ppl from CHC.
<vincent> Let's beginning with simple structures first, we'll add more posts in the future.
<[DoM]> from my offical KCTI computer department magazine
<vincent> ok, thanks. :)
<vincent> We need volunteers..
<[DoM]> i would like to be the vice..
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<vincent> Welcome G-Force!
<[DoM]> hah.:D~
<G-Force> Hello... all
<PiPPeN> hi g-force
<PiPPeN> domdom. u want to do the vice ar?
<[DoM]> make a NFO
<[DoM]> drop all ppl'
<[DoM]> drop all ppl'z job in da HKLUG.NFO
<[DoM]> ?
<[DoM]> haha
<vincent> ...
<[DoM]> vice...
<[DoM]> yup..
<SammyFung> Welcome, G Force
<vincent> Now we have 5 main posts, who's interested to these posts?
<PiPPeN> umm...
<vincent> Chairperson, Secretary, Webmaster, Public Relations, Promotion Director
<PiPPeN> umm..  public relation.
<[DoM]> hmm.. vicent/sammy to be the chair?
<PiPPeN> ,,, i think so,.
<vincent> Public Relation is to contact the people, mainly.
<[DoM]> hah.. ic
<SammyFung> Vincent, may you list out what should we talk tonight ?
<PiPPeN> oh... then dom dom do la.haa..
<vincent> Wait, I'm finding.
<[DoM]> how'z vice-chairman? I'm interest at that.
<SammyFung> may you list out those points...
<SammyFung> Thank you.
<SammyFung> We may discuss according our agenda.
<vincent> Purpose  : 1) To define the detail tasks of the different committes
<vincent>            2) To vote for the temporary committes
<vincent>            3) To arrange jobs to the new committes
<vincent>            4) If we have time, we'll discuss on HKLUG's web
<SammyFung> We may discuss according to out agenda.
<SammyFung> Thank you.
<SammyFung> Now, we may discuss about the 1st point.
<PiPPeN> ok
<SammyFung> Ok, we may define the duties of different committee members...
<SammyFung> No.
<SammyFung> Now..
<SammyFung> How about duties of chairperson ?
<SammyFung> ANy suggestion ?
<[DoM]> hmm
<PiPPeN> umm.......sammy u did not have idea ar?
<[DoM]> control/make final decision...
<vincent> For the chairperson
<PiPPeN> yepyep.
<PiPPeN> umm.......?
<vincent> Secretary: record meeting details, reporting. Prepare public documentations.
<SammyFung> We have tried to define its duties, but it's not quite detailly.
<SammyFung> So, we would like to hear your opinions.
<PiPPeN> this committee how many gathering in week?
<vincent> Regularly on every SAT, today's special meeting.
<PiPPeN> oh.ic
<vincent> What in my mind now...
<vincent> Public Relation: Contact members, do announcement on special meetings, events etc.
<vincent> Promotion Director: Control, monitor and record the promotion progress on any fields by promotors. 
<SammyFung> Promotion Directors : Promote HKLUG to other people in Hong Kong by any kinds of media.
<SammyFung> Web master : Publish our homepage on internet.
<PiPPeN> i think u do the promotion director is the best lor. sammy.
<vincent> The director shouldn't involve too many actual works.
<SammyFung> I don't want to take any fixed posts in the committee.
<[DoM]> hmm...
<SammyFung> Hee...
<vincent> Web master should mainly deal with the web development team (I hope we'll have). For our web site's 
  development.
<PiPPeN> too bad:~( , SAMMY
<vincent> Hey Sammy...
<IHXO> I take the promotion job lar.....
<vincent> It's a great value if you can be in our committe team..
<SammyFung> Oh ?!
<vincent> Any other ideas for the posts? Please tell us!
<PiPPeN> .....??
<vincent> These are my ideas only.
<SammyFung> But I would like to give chances to others to handle duties in committee.
<[DoM]> hmm
<[DoM]> vice prez
<SammyFung> So, I strongly recommand that 1 person take 1 postition is better.
<PiPPeN> oh......
<SammyFung> So, may we vote for our committee right now ?
<PiPPeN> ok
<IHXO> ok .. ^_^
-> *SammyFung* to tell you the truth, I think you should help us a lot if you take the important roles in our 
   committe team
<PiPPeN> let start now
<[DoM]> :)
<SammyFung> It's Nine o'clock now.
<PiPPeN> so?.
<IHXO> but don't U think there too less people for voting ?? ......
<SammyFung> Do everyone agree that we vote for committee.
<[DoM]> hah
<vincent> Yes.. really. But this is our temporary committe team only.
<SammyFung> Ben, it's an tempory committee only.
<SammyFung> Yes.
<vincent> It is ok, yes, as Sammy said.
<IHXO> ok ....
<SammyFung> That's right, Vincent.
<[DoM]> promotion
<SammyFung> Ok, any problems else ?
<vincent> DoM, you want to be the promotion director?
<[DoM]> hmm...  yes.. quite interest in it.
<SammyFung> If there's no problem, we may start to discuss who should take those postisiton.
<SammyFung> We may start from chairperson fisrt.
<[DoM]> bcoz i'm many bbs's co-op...
<SammyFung> ... first.
<[DoM]> before.
<[DoM]> haha.
<vincent> Ok, any other people want to be the promotion direcotr?
<[DoM]> hmm..
<SammyFung> I think we should discuss the chairperson first, VIncent.
<SammyFung> Because it's quite important.
<vincent> Well, ok..
<PiPPeN> chairperson.
<SammyFung> It's quite important for whole committee.
<SammyFung> Ok.
<IHXO> yeap ...
<[DoM]> so who?
<SammyFung> Any suggestion ? Who to be tempory (Wrong Spelling ?) chairperson ?
<SammyFung> Let's suggest someone to be... and then we vote on those peoples.
<vincent> Personally I vote for Sammy, his leadership is a great asset to be our chairperson.
<[DoM]> hmm... sammy and vincent?
<Zephyr> vincent has done a lot of work, i vote for vincent
<PiPPeN> umm.. btw, sammy is quite good in leadership.
<Zephyr> so , hard to choose
<IHXO> MMm.........
<SammyFung> Ha... We may add vice chairperson too... :)
<vincent> I'm interested to be the chairperson, but I know that my leadership is not enough. It will affect the 
  whole group's progress if I take up the job now. :)
<vincent> I'd like to be the vice if there is. :)
<[DoM]> vice!
<IHXO> so .. everybody will have a post lar ..
<[DoM]> hah
<PiPPeN> hha..
<SammyFung> Ok, let's vote, should we add a vice-chairperson ?
<[DoM]> it should be more than one vice -prez
<SammyFung> Vincent, did you keep the log right now ?
<[DoM]> :)
<[DoM]> yes
<vincent> yes..
<[DoM]> hmm... sammy and vincent?
<SammyFung> I need use the log as my English self-access asignment.
<PiPPeN> i think need la.. if the chairperson did not have time to do so many jobs. then the vice-chairperson can 
   help him to solve it.
<[DoM]> oh?
<vincent> Ok, one of the good point. :)
<SammyFung> I think we should have 1 chairperson, and 1 or 2 vice-chairperson(s).
<PiPPeN> umm...  good idea.
<[DoM]> i'd like to be the vice for the group .hmm..
<IHXO> wai ... actually how many posts are there ???
<G-Force> right... need vice-chairpersion.
<SammyFung> So...
<SammyFung> Now...
<SammyFung> There're 3 choices...
<IHXO> we don't have so many people to fill up the posts .....
<SammyFung> A. 1 chairperson only
<PiPPeN> vice chairperson.
<SammyFung> B. 1 chairperson and 1 vice-chairperson.
<[DoM]> chairman, vice, secretry, public relation, promotion dir.
<SammyFung> C. 1 chairperson and 2 vice-chairpersons.
<SammyFung> 3 choices.
<SammyFung> May we vote now ?
<SammyFung> <-- B
<vincent> I vote for B.
<[DoM]> i'll choose C
<[DoM]> :)~
<G-Force> b
<PiPPeN> C
<PiPPeN> oh...
<[DoM]> :)~
<PiPPeN> how about IHXO and Zephyr?
<Zephyr> b
<IHXO> b /c ....
<SammyFung> there're 4 B 2 C
<PiPPeN> oh.. then sammy win.
<PiPPeN> haaaa
<[DoM]> so the result is B
<PiPPeN> 1 vice.
<SammyFung> Yes, the result is... B !
<SammyFung> So, we should choose 1 chairperson and 1 vice-chairperson.
<vincent> Go on.. I've 40 min left.. :)
<SammyFung> Ok.
<[DoM]> hah.
<SammyFung> we choose chairperson first.
<IHXO> ok ........
<SammyFung> There're 2 persons...
<SammyFung> 1. Sammy Fung
<SammyFung> 2. Vincent Tam
<SammyFung> Any others ?
<PiPPeN> DOM la
<SammyFung> Try to add 1 more... (at least)
<SammyFung> Ha...
<SammyFung> Ok..
<PiPPeN> haha.
<SammyFung> DoM...
<[DoM]> oh?
<PiPPeN> hoho:O
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<PiPPeN> hi Jacky.
<[DoM]> haha.. cool..
<Jacky> Hi!
<[DoM]> hi jack
<vincent> Hi jacky
<SammyFung> Do you accept Pippen propose you in voting ? Dom
<Jacky> nice to meet you there! =)
<IHXO> hi .. ^_^
<vincent> We've voting for chairperson now..
<Jacky> oh..
<G-Force> hello... jacky
<SammyFung> If you have no problem.... we have 3 selections.
<[DoM]> nevermind, I will choose Sammy anyway.haha
<SammyFung> we got 3 selections.
<SammyFung> A. Sammy
<SammyFung> A. Sammy, Diploma holder, HD Software engineering student.
<SammyFung> B. Vincent, a worker in computing field.
<SammyFung> C. DoM, Diploma student.
<SammyFung> That's all.
<vincent> I graduated from HDCS ga. :)
<SammyFung> Any more suggestions ?
<SammyFung> If no...
<SammyFung> let's vote...
<[DoM]> hah
<SammyFung> for chairperson.
<SammyFung> <-- Vincent
<PiPPeN> <------DOM DOM
<vincent> Sammy
<[DoM]> < - [A]
<Zephyr> vincent
<G-Force> A
<SammyFung> Ar ?!
<SammyFung> :~~~
<SammyFung> :(
<vincent> :)
<PiPPeN> :)
<SammyFung> G-Force...
<SammyFung> Ar...
<SammyFung> Oh, no...
<SammyFung>  :~~~
<PiPPeN> hooooooho:O
<SammyFung> wait..
<Jacky> can I vote there?
<SammyFung> anyone didn't vote ?
<SammyFung> Ar..
<SammyFung> Ha !
<G-Force> :)   i think Sammy had time for handle...
<SammyFung>  :>
<IHXO> I diidn't vote ..haha....
<SammyFung> Ar ?!
<[DoM]> sure
<[DoM]> hah
<PiPPeN> sammy. is very free ka.haha.
<SammyFung> Let's calculate...
<[DoM]> hmm..
<IHXO> icic.. saammy is free .. but vincent is .... think sin ......
<SammyFung> show your votes again.
<vincent> A
<PiPPeN> DOM DOM DOM DOM DOM.
<[DoM]> A
<G-Force> A
<SammyFung> And don't add any others wrods...
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<PiPPeN> C
<SammyFung> No dupe votes ar.
<[DoM]> kool
<vincent> IHXO's connection lost.
<SammyFung> Oh...
<SammyFung> Then... is that I got highest votes ?
<PiPPeN> .....?
<[DoM]> sure.
<[DoM]> .........:O~
<SammyFung> There're too many words... I don't see them clearly... :(
<PiPPeN> sammy.. u did not have time to play basketball lu..hoho :O
<PiPPeN> no need la.
<PiPPeN> u won la.
<SammyFung> Jacky...
<SammyFung> there're 3 selections..
<SammyFung> A. Sam,y
<SammyFung> B. Vincent
<SammyFung> C. Dom
<vincent> Try your best Sammy, you can do this. :)
<SammyFung> You vote who ?
<Jacky> I have no idea since I don't know you all
<SammyFung> Oh...
<SammyFung> OK.
<[DoM]> yea.
<[DoM]> haha.
<SammyFung> Anyway, I will be the TEMPORY chairperson of HKLUG :( :) :~~
<[DoM]> ho.!
<SammyFung> TEMPORARY chairperson.
<vincent> Yes. :)
<SammyFung> Ok.
<SammyFung> Well..
<Jacky> congratulations!
<SammyFung> Let's vote vice-chairperson now.
<vincent> Let's go on, 30 mins left, for me. :)
<G-Force> try the best.
<SammyFung> ANy suggestions ?
<PiPPeN> hoho.. congratulations ar. sammy.
<vincent> I'm interested. :)
<SammyFung> A. Vincent
<SammyFung> B. DoM
<SammyFung> Any more suggestion ?
<PiPPeN> :)
<SammyFung> C. Ben (IXHO)
<SammyFung> D. Zephyr
<Zephyr> no not me
<SammyFung> Any more ?
<PiPPeN> E: DOM
<[DoM]> dom again?haha
<PiPPeN> haha.
<SammyFung> He is in option B.
<PiPPeN> yes,, i know
<SammyFung> A. Vincent
<vincent> Exq's me, but.. please think before list it...
<SammyFung> B. Dom
<SammyFung> C. Ben (IXHO)
<SammyFung> D. Zephyr
<PiPPeN> E?
<SammyFung> ANy more suggestion /
<SammyFung>  ?
<SammyFung> E. Pippen.
<SammyFung> A. Vincent
<SammyFung> B. Dom
<[DoM]> one eye list all
<SammyFung> C. Ben (IXHO)
<PiPPeN> F. Jacky
<vincent> btw, does we really need that MANY choices???.... we're not PLAYING!
<SammyFung> Ok.
<Jacky> me too?!
<SammyFung> We just left 2 choices only again.
<Jacky> oh no... :~(
<SammyFung> A. Vincent
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<Jacky> Hi Leo!!
<Leo> hi all
<SammyFung> Vote for vice-chairperson
<vincent> Who is Leo? :)
<SammyFung> A. Vincent
<Leo> hi Jacky
<SammyFung> B. Dom
<SammyFung> Any more suggetsions ?
<Leo> ?
<SammyFung> suggestions ?
<Jacky> Hi! :)
<SammyFung> Vote selection of vice-chairpersons are :
<SammyFung> A. Vincent
<vincent> I hope voidoo is here.
<SammyFung> B. Dom
<SammyFung> Any more suggestions ?
<PiPPeN> start?
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<[DoM]> :O
<[DoM]> we should set the mode to +s if it is a private chatting..?
<PiPPeN> sammy?start?
<SammyFung> Any more suggetsion, if no, we start vote now.
<PiPPeN> ok
<SammyFung> <-- Vincent
<Zephyr> <--vincent
<vincent> <-- myself
<G-Force> Vincent...
<PiPPeN> <--- DOM
<SammyFung> OK,
<PiPPeN> hoho.:O
<[DoM]> hoh..
<SammyFung> It seems we may stop voting now.
<PiPPeN> oh. ok
<SammyFung> Because Vincent got more than 50% voting now.
<SammyFung> Ok.
<[DoM]> so i will pickup the promotion director..haha.
<[DoM]> thanks for pippen haha..
<PiPPeN> haa
<SammyFung> Temporary Vice chairperson : Vincent Tam.
<SammyFung> So, we already got Chairperson and Vice Chairperson right now.
<SammyFung> So, we may vote web master first..
<PiPPeN> need another vote now ? ChairPerson?
<vincent> No choice.. Sammy. :)
<SammyFung> Bcs. our temporary homepage is located on animenet.com.hk Linux server.
<SammyFung> So, we should find someone to assist Vincent to handle the web site.
<G-Force> ha....
<SammyFung> Anybody ?
<PiPPeN> animenet.com.hK?
<PiPPeN> linux server?
<SammyFung> It's running with linux.
<vincent> Who is familar with web server and html, and site development? I need some assistant on it.
<PiPPeN> oh..... u buliding ka?     sammy?
<vincent> Currently, I wrote it... ^_^;
<PiPPeN> oh.ic
<[DoM]> i've less experience in web-hosting
<SammyFung> No, Pippen.
<vincent> So I need some assistant.. I can't handle it forever.
<SammyFung> Vincent did it.
<SammyFung> Ok...
<SammyFung> Any voluteers ?
<vincent> Another reason why I send the reg. form...
<SammyFung> Anyone suggest himself to be ?
<SammyFung> Ha...
<SammyFung> Who are interested to design homepage ?
<vincent> Then.. these are web site developers..?
<PiPPeN> i hate it.
<Zephyr> what should we know to help actually ?
<SammyFung> Zephyr, can you ?
<vincent> Let me list:
<vincent> HTML coding knowledge.
<vincent> Perl scirpting
<vincent> CGI experience (an asset)
<vincent> Web server experience (an asset)
<vincent> Design experience (e.g. PhotoShop, 3D rendering..)
<vincent> Chinese typing skill, good english writing skill.. is also helpful. :)
<Zephyr> i think i can't , i am just learning perl now, sorry
<vincent> Design experience is not an important point, actually.
<G-Force> If voidoo here, i vote voidoo.
<vincent> Sammy, I think we're asking for Web Site developer only...
<SammyFung> Ok.
<SammyFung> Mmm...
<SammyFung> I should say...
<vincent> For the time being, unless we have our own server, otherwise I'll be the main control of the web server 
  now... ^_^;
<SammyFung> "Web Site Developers" should convert some text into HTML.
<[DoM]> ah
<SammyFung> by FrontPage, etc...
<[DoM]> will we register a domain?
<SammyFung> Is it clear now
<SammyFung> Is it clear now ?
<vincent> Not only doing HTMLing.. really..
<PiPPeN> need register a domain ma? chair person.
<SammyFung> We will, but we discuss in the future.
<vincent> Yes, it's a simple job.. actually.
<SammyFung> OK...
<SammyFung> We gives them some times to consider about Web Site developer.
<SammyFung> Ok.
<SammyFung> How about public relationship ?
<vincent> btw, for web site developer and promotors, we should send to all people..
<vincent> it's a type of HELPER work, not in the committe team..
<SammyFung> To contact with members... company (such as I-wave... give pressures to them to give linux.org.hk 
   back to us).
<Jacky> how can we give pressure to the ISP?
<SammyFung> VIncent, you mean PR ?
<vincent> I mean web developer and promotors.
<SammyFung> Tony Leung already sent a email to I-wave today.
<Zephyr> that page sucks!
<vincent> i-wave also sucks.
<[DoM]> haha.
<SammyFung> How about Public Relations then ?
<[DoM]> merge with em?
<Jacky> i-wave server is fast!!
<vincent> They have only 2 modem racks.. a very small server cabinet. :)
<PiPPeN> 2 modem racks ja?
<vincent> PR.. who's interested?
<Jacky> there are so few users in I-wave
<SammyFung> I suggest Ben IXHO.
<SammyFung> He is keeping our member records...
<vincent> (yes, I've seen it in Kwun Tong, a building storing the ISPs servers)
<vincent> Yes he's keeping our member records... but I think Tony Leung is better if he will initiative to do 
  that work himself. :)
<vincent> Too bad he's not here.
<SammyFung> Ok
<SammyFung> Tony Leung...
<SammyFung> Any objection ?
<vincent> Anybody here interested to be the PR?
<SammyFung> I think we're inactive except me and Vincent.
<SammyFung> Ha !
<SammyFung> So, I would like to suggest that we changes the methods on committee seletions now.
<SammyFung> Do you agree, Vincent ?
<SammyFung> ANy objection to my idea ?
<vincent> What do you have for the suggestion?
<SammyFung> Or other suggestions ?
<vincent> What suggestion you have?
<SammyFung> Ask them 1 by 1.
<vincent> (Don't be so quiet, other people)
<SammyFung> such as...
<SammyFung> Dom, what postition you want to take over ?
<SammyFung> Ha !
<[DoM]> hmm
<[DoM]> prmotor
<SammyFung> It's directly to ask.
<[DoM]> promotor
<SammyFung> Promotor ?
<SammyFung> Mmm...
<[DoM]> director?
<vincent> Promotion Director it is.
<vincent> :)
<[DoM]> promote director? or something like that...
<SammyFung> What's your do after you being Promotion Director ?
<SammyFung> Let's tell us...
<SammyFung> Ar...
<[DoM]> ?
<vincent> You'll deal with promotion works. Give us promotion ideas and deal with our 'promotors'. :)
<[DoM]> haha..
<SammyFung> Sorry, what will you do after you being Promotion Director in HKLUG.
<[DoM]> sure.. we should make an cool application...
<SammyFung> Ha...
<[DoM]> form
<vincent> form? :) 
<SammyFung> But, it is impossible now...
<[DoM]> yea
<SammyFung> You should say...
<vincent> Not really. After we've assigned the jobs.
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<SammyFung> promotion in Univ, Colleges and institutes.
<G-Force> O....
<[DoM]> hmm..
<[DoM]> for myself, i can promote in KCTI
<[DoM]> or i can write an article in "EastTouch" or "Mingpao"
<SammyFung> Of course... there're some other people to help you...
<vincent> So, handling any promotion activities. :)
<[DoM]> yes i know.
<SammyFung> You may ask some other people to help you...
<SammyFung> Being Promotion DIRECTOR, you may make some promotion planning.
<Jacky> write an article in SingTao PC Market...
<G-Force> What's your plan?  what  will you do when you are promotor?
<[DoM]> Hmm..
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<[DoM]> that is impossible for me to write article in SingTao PC market
<vincent> With DoM's wide relations with the varies fields, looks he must be able to do the post very well. :)
<[DoM]> since I'm not the worker on it.
<[DoM]> :) thanks.
<PiPPeN> oh... dom write article in singtao?
<vincent> But I really think so...
<[DoM]> no..
<vincent> Ok... 
<[DoM]> in mingpao and easttouch only.
<PiPPeN> oh.ic
<vincent> 10 minutes left..
<[DoM]> haha.
<G-Force> great.
<vincent> So DoM's article skill is good law wor?!
<[DoM]> so our conference will be stopped after 10 mins
<PiPPeN> yep.yep... DoM........
<[DoM]> oh.
<[DoM]> haha..  not really good.
<vincent> No... 
<vincent> I'll leave (probably) depends on my work. I need to prepare something for my tomorrow's work.
<vincent> Or I'll be inactive after 10:00pm
<[DoM]> hah
<vincent> Now, we have Secretary and Public Relation left.
<Jacky> anythink else needed to be discussed here?
<SammyFung> ok...
<vincent> Who will take the post of Secretary and Public Relation?
<[DoM]> is it possible to find a gal to handle the Secretary work?
<[DoM]> hahaa
<SammyFung> Jacky, can you take a post ?
<SammyFung> Zephyr, can you tak a post ?
<Jacky> I am afraid that I can't do that well..
<SammyFung> G-Force, , can you tak a post ?
<vincent> Not really need a girl, but should be good in formal writting.
<SammyFung> Never mind, Jacky, you may try your best, it's temporary only.
<SammyFung> it's temporary only
<SammyFung> it's temporary only
<SammyFung> it's temporary only.
<SammyFung> Yes.
<SammyFung> Or... chinese writing is also ok.
<vincent> Jacky, no need to afraid. But do you familar with writing or dealing with people?
<Jacky> what can I do for you???
<SammyFung> So, I can't be chinese secretary.
<SammyFung> Because I fail in chinese. :)
<Jacky> I am not good in chinese..
<vincent> We need someone familar with writing(Secretary) or dealing with people (Public Relation)?
<SammyFung> Or english...
<SammyFung> Ar.. DoM...
<SammyFung> Ha...
<G-Force> Sorry, i am only want share exp., if i have time, may be i can post some afticle..
<vincent> G-Force, you can be in our helper team.. :)
<vincent> So, no people handling the Secretary & Public Relation? I suggest Tony Leung to handle the Public 
  Relation work.
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<vincent> IHXO, you're back? :)
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<IHXO> hoyeah .. got cut off ...
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<[DoM]> ?
-> *Sammy* discuss
<IHXO> how's it going ??
<Jacky> I can help you to post newsletters in newsgroups
<[DoM]> PR
<SammyFung> Ok
<[DoM]> hmm
<PiPPeN> pr
<SammyFung> IHXO, may you take a postition in temporary committee of HKLUG.
<SammyFung> ？
<vincent> We'll discuss the helpers post later, we're choosing the major committe team..
<SammyFung> Chairperson : Sammy Fung
<IHXO> ok . but what posi.
<SammyFung> Vice Chairperson : Vincent Tam
<SammyFung> Promotion Director : Dom Fung
<vincent> IHXO, are you interested in Secretary or Public Relation ?
<Jacky> Public-Relations
<SammyFung> Public Relations : Tony Leung
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<SammyFung> Ar..
<IHXO> MMmm.... U mean Secretary ?? ...
<vincent> I only SUGGEST Tony Leung.. :)
<SammyFung> VIncent, may you send Tony an email to tell him about Public Relations ?
<vincent> I only SUGGEST...! :)
<[DoM]> :)
<vincent> Yeah sure.
<SammyFung> OK
<SammyFung> Any position left ? VIncent.
<vincent> Secretary & Public Relation.
<SammyFung> Well, Ben, would you like to take 1 of above 2 postitions ?
<IHXO> icic .... ok .......
<vincent> (I think at this moment I'll handle the Web Master job, too.)
<SammyFung> voidoo is online, vincent !
<vincent> Ok.. find him..
<PiPPeN> i did not need to do. haha.
<IHXO> I contacted him lar ..
<vincent> What are you interested at, PiPPeN?
<PiPPeN> dunno.
<SammyFung> Wyile online too... It sounds great !
<vincent> NOTE: I'll goto prepare the materials for my work tomorrow, I'll become inactive now. But I'll still 
  record the log.
<vincent> Sometimes I'll browse this window, too. :)
<SammyFung> Ok...
<SammyFung> Ben, you would like to take what postition ?
<Jacky> bye vincent!
<PiPPeN> ummm... sammy.. then any help?
<SammyFung> Secretary...
<PiPPeN> what is secretary ar?
<SammyFung> May you be ? Ben.
<IHXO> whatever lar ... secretary .. or web page design is ok .....
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<voidoo> *bow*
<IHXO> yeah !! voidoo .. ^_^
<SammyFung> You may check your dictionary... Pippen.
<SammyFung> Voidoo...
<Jacky> I love web designing.. =)
<IHXO> yeah . me too .....
<PiPPeN> I LOVE      PR.
<SammyFung> Pippen, really ? You're laughing or in serious ?
<PiPPeN> serious.
<SammyFung> Jacky and Ben, you may be Web Site Developers to assist Vincent, are you ok ?
<IHXO> ok ....
<SammyFung> PR = Public Relations.
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<IHXO>  not a problem lar .. ^_^
<PiPPeN> yes..
<Jacky> I can help you
<SammyFung> Ok. I drop down your nAME.
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<SammyFung> Ok, I drop down your name, Pippen -> PR
<SammyFung> Pippen = PR
<SammyFung> Jacky = Web Site Developer
<SammyFung> Ben = Web Site Developer
<PiPPeN> umm.... good.:)
<PiPPeN> Dom DOM.?
<PiPPeN> dom dom?
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<voidoo> back
<PiPPeN> hih
<SammyFung> Chairperson : Sammy
<SammyFung> Vice-chairperson : Vincent
<SammyFung> Promotion Director : Dom
<SammyFung> Public Relations : Tony Leung
<SammyFung> Web Site Developer : Jacky
<SammyFung> Web Site Developer : Ben IXHO
<SammyFung> Public Relations : Pippen
<voidoo> oh
<PiPPeN> .?
<IHXO> Chairperson : Sammy
<IHXO> Vice Chairperson : Vincent
<IHXO> Public Relationship : Pippen , Tony Leung
<IHXO> Web Site Developer : Jacky , Ben
<IHXO> Secretary : ??????
<IHXO> Promotion Director : Dom
<IHXO> go tto have somebody to take the  secretary post ...
<PiPPeN> ......?...?...?...?...?...?...?
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<Chiman> # Appears as BOLO.
<PiPPeN> hi chiman
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<PiPPeN> sammy?
<vincent> I'm sorry I'm back for a while.
<SammyFung> Yes, I am here.
<PiPPeN> ok
<vincent> How's it going? ... (let me see..)
<SammyFung> <SammyFung> Web Site Developer : Jacky
<SammyFung> <SammyFung> Web Site Developer : Ben IXHO
<SammyFung> Dear all members in HKLUG,
<SammyFung> I am pleased that I will be temporary chairperson in HKLUG committee.
<SammyFung> Hereby is the listing of the committee members :
<SammyFung> Chairperson : Sammy Fung, MHKCS, Dip CS (Communication) holder, TCTY HD Software Engineering Student.
<SammyFung> Vice-Chairperson : Vincent Tam, HDSE holder.
<SammyFung> Promotion Director : Dominic Fung, KCTI Dip CS (Communication) student.
<SammyFung> Public Relations : Tony Leung, OnTech Company
<SammyFung> Public Relations : Nicholas Ng, Chu Hai College Dip CS student.
<SammyFung> Secretary : (Still under recruiting)
<SammyFung> Web Site Developer : Jacky
<SammyFung> Web Site Developer : Ben
<SammyFung> Ok ?
<vincent> Erhh.... I'm HDCS.. :)
<SammyFung> Jacky, what is your surname ?
<Jacky> I am Jacky Wu
<IHXO> BTW: Can  I have your UINs ??? I think  I don't have some of your UIN .....
<SammyFung> Vice-Chairperson : Vincent Tam, HDCS holder.
<SammyFung> 494967
<vincent> IHXO, you have the member list, seems!!?
<SammyFung> Jacky, you're studying or working ?
<PiPPeN> 361960
<Jacky> F7
<SammyFung> Oh...
<Jacky> AL is coming =)
<IHXO> no .. I think I don't have [DoM] G-Force Jacky PiPPeN 's UIN ....
<PiPPeN> 361960
<Jacky> my UIN is 1298273
<vincent> DoM is Dominic Fung.. :)
<SammyFung> Ha... Yes....
<vincent> We should use RealName or name in our member list then.
<SammyFung> Tam Wing Shing... always appear on newspaper ka la...
<SammyFung> Ben...
<SammyFung> what's your surname ?
<IHXO> icic .....
<IHXO> how about G-force ??
<SammyFung> Ben, what's your surname ?
<G-Force> sorry....     mine is 1766732...
<vincent> I'm not 'Tam Wing Shing' wor...
<PiPPeN> what newspaper ar?
<vincent> I haven't written any articles.
<IHXO> U mean Newsgroup ?
<IHXO> My surname is Sheung ...
<Jacky> who's Tam Wing Shing?
<PiPPeN> vincent tam
<Jacky> Ic!!
<IHXO> 商 <== Can U see it ??
<vincent> Sing not Shing.
<vincent> Ok go away for a while, too...
<PiPPeN> 商?right?
<SammyFung> In english, IHXO.
<IHXO> yup ^_^
<SammyFung> And what are you studying, Ben ?
<SammyFung> What's your surname in English, Ben ?
<IHXO> Comu. Science ....
<IHXO> Compu ..
<Jacky> which U ?
<IHXO> BU ...
<Jacky> IC!!
<Jacky> I wanna study CS in CUHK too. =)
<IHXO> @_@
<IHXO> icic .. I want TOO !!!!!
<IHXO> yup .. whatz up .. ??
<SammyFung> BSc. or BEng or BA, Ben ?
<SammyFung> And (Hons) , Ben ?
Session Close: Sun Nov 30 22:28:39 1997

Session Start: Sun Nov 30 22:28:45 1997
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<Wylie> oh
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<deathscythe> hihi
<Wylie> hihi
<PiPPeN> hi  wylie
<SammyFung> Dear all members in HKLUG,
<SammyFung> I am pleased that I will be temporary chairperson in HKLUG committee.
<SammyFung> Hereby is the list of our committee members :
<SammyFung> Chairperson : Sammy Fung, MHKCS, Dip CS (Communication) holder, TCTY HD Software Engineering Student.
<SammyFung> Vice-Chairperson : Vincent Tam, HDCS holder.
<SammyFung> Promotion Director : Dominic Fung, KCTI Dip CS (Communication) student.
<SammyFung> Public Relations : Tony Leung, OnTech Company.
<SammyFung> Public Relations : Nicholas Ng, Chu Hai College Dip CS student.
<SammyFung> Secretary : (Still under recruiting)
<SammyFung> Web Site Developer : Jacky Wu, AL student.
<PiPPeN> hi deathscythe.
<SammyFung> What's your surname in English, Ben ?
<SammyFung> Web Site Developer : Ben Sheung, HKBU CS degree student.
<SammyFung> In this period, above committee will handle preliminary jobs to make our user group
<SammyFung> stronger.
<SammyFung> If you are interested to take part in our committee, please contact with me freely.
<SammyFung> Yours faithfully
<SammyFung> for Hong Kong Linux User Group
<SammyFung> Mr. Fung Chun Wah Sammy
<SammyFung> Temporary Chairperson
<IHXO> Benjamin Sheung
<IHXO> Ben = Benjamin Sheung =IHXO ......
<SammyFung> Web Site Developer : Benjamin Sheung, HKBU CS degree student.
<SammyFung> Web Site Developer : Benjamin Sheung, HKBU CS degree student.
<SammyFung> Chairperson : Sammy Fung, MHKCS, Dip CS (Communication) holder, TCTY HD Software Engineering Student.
<SammyFung> Vice-Chairperson : Vincent Tam, HDCS holder.
<SammyFung> Promotion Director : Dominic Fung, KCTI Dip CS (Communication) student.
<SammyFung> Public Relations : Tony Leung, OnTech Company.
<SammyFung> Public Relations : Nicholas Ng, Chu Hai College Dip CS student.
<SammyFung> Secretary : (Still under recruiting)
<SammyFung> Web Site Developer : Jacky Wu, AL student.
<SammyFung> Web Site Developer : Benjamin Sheung, HKBU CS degree student.
<SammyFung> Ok ?
<SammyFung> Wyile ad voidoo, and .... deadthscythe... do you know now ?
<SammyFung>      ^^ and
<deathscythe> .......?
<SammyFung> Voidoo, may you take a post too ?
<SammyFung> Wyile, may you take a post too ?
<SammyFung> G-Force, , may you take a post too ?
<SammyFung> Deathscythe, , may you take a post too ?
<PiPPeN> sammy, may u take a post too?
<voidoo> I know
<SammyFung> Took.
<SammyFung> Let's read above.
<PiPPeN> haaa
<PiPPeN> DOM, may u take a post too?
<deathscythe> .....
<IHXO> Wyile , Deathscythe , May I have your UIN ??
<SammyFung> Pippen, please don't laughing.
<PiPPeN> Ok.
<Wylie> sure
<deathscythe> my UIN:930805
<Wylie> 806690
<G-Force> as vincent say... a helper only.
<SammyFung> Wyile, may you take a post too ?
<SammyFung> G-Force, , may you take a post too ?
<Wylie> what can i do?
<Jacky> we need a secretary =)
<SammyFung> What kinds of duties are you interested in then, Wyile ?
<SammyFung> Deathscythe, , may you take a post too ?
<deathscythe> what an i do!?
<SammyFung> Deathscythe, , may you take a post too ?
<deathscythe>    can
<SammyFung> Voidoo, may you take a post too ?
<Jacky> 我們需要一位秘書.. =)
<SammyFung> I means... it is based on what kinds of duties you're interested to.
<SammyFung> For an example, Jacky are interested in homepage designing, so he will be web site developer.
<SammyFung> Jacky, try to type in english... bcs. I will use the log as my english assignment.
<SammyFung> Ha...
<Wylie> I'm interested in building homepage too
<SammyFung> Oh...
<SammyFung> Wylie...
<Jacky> yeah!1 Wylie can help us then!!
<SammyFung> What's your surname in English ?
<IHXO> I think deathscyythe got an interesting homepage ......
<SammyFung> What's your surname in English, Wylie ?
<Wylie> Khan
<IHXO> I gotta go la ..  See U guy later .... ^_^
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<[DoM]> oh
<[DoM]> why don't op us?
<SammyFung> Are you working, Wylie ?
<Wylie> no
<Jacky> cya! IHXO
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<SammyFung> It is because operator mode is given to conference leader only.
<SammyFung> I and Vincent are conference leaders tonight.
<SammyFung> What are you studying then, Wylie ?
<SammyFung> Which Univ/College/School ? which course ?
<Wylie> I'm just F7
<SammyFung> I see... ok
<Jacky> me too!!
<Jacky> are you science student?
<SammyFung> AL student.
<Jacky> yeah!!
<Wylie> yes
<SammyFung> Web Site Developer : Wylie Khan, AL student.
<Jacky> that's good!! which subjects do you take?
<SammyFung> Web Site Developer : Jacky Wu, AL science student.
<SammyFung> Web Site Developer : Wylie Khan, AL science student.
<Wylie> Pure Math, Phy, App Math
<SammyFung> Jacky, may you mail your email addr. to me by email ?
<Jacky> Pure Maths., Phy., Chem..,
<SammyFung> Because I think you're not in our mailing list (maybe)
<Jacky> okay.. what is your email?!
<SammyFung> cwfung@hkent.com
<Jacky> wait..
<PiPPeN> haaaaaa
<[DoM]> woh
<SammyFung> Pippen too.
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<[DoM]> my gf want to be the secretry.
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<Wylie> oh
<SammyFung> G-Force, are you in our mailing list, if not, please mail your email to me.
<PiPPeN> .....
<PiPPeN> ???
<SammyFung> Do she got internet access ? Dom Fung
<PiPPeN> DOM DOM, ru  closed bbs?
<[DoM]> yes. but ..hmm
<Jacky> oh.. isn't it "cwfung@hknet.com"??
<Jacky> not cwfung@hkent.com
<[DoM]> prepare to move it to the internet..
<[DoM]> migrate to internet.
<PiPPeN> ic
<SammyFung> is cwfung@hknet.com
<[DoM]> yes.. she got internet axis..
<Jacky> I have sent you my email
<SammyFung> Because, as secretary, s/he requires to drop notes of our meetings.
<[DoM]> yes..
<[DoM]> she know about it..
<PiPPeN> .....
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<SammyFung> received.
<PiPPeN> ......
<deathscythe> ..
<SammyFung> All staffs in committee. please mail your email address, your name, and postition name to me
<SammyFung> by email to cwfung@hknet.com
<SammyFung> Ok ?
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<PiPPeN> ......
<[DoM]> my email client in win95 didn't work right now.. mail it to you 2morrow ok?
<SammyFung> ok
<SammyFung> Purpose  : 1) To define the detail tasks of the different committes
<SammyFung>            2) To vote for the temporary committes
<SammyFung>            3) To arrange jobs to the new committes
<SammyFung>            4) If we have time, we'll discuss on HKLUG's web
<SammyFung> site                      development.
<SammyFung> OK
<SammyFung> Now,
<SammyFung> Mmm...
<PiPPeN> ........
<SammyFung> Point 3 shown as above.
<SammyFung> Job arrangement...
<SammyFung> Firstly, do you clear what's your duties ?
<SammyFung> And...
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<SammyFung> For Web Site Developer, all of you're lead by Web Master, Vincent Tam.
<SammyFung> He is your boss.
<SammyFung> Oh...
<SammyFung> voidoo, are you here ?
<SammyFung> dom, are you here ?
<[DoM]> SemiPhone
<SammyFung> death, are you here ?
<SammyFung> :>
<[DoM]> yes SemiFung
<SammyFung> ;)
<vincent> I'm back for a while again
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<SammyFung> Yes, DoFung
<vincent> Arrange jobs now? 
<deathscythe> ..
<[DoM]> hmm
<G-Force> bad hkStar...
<SammyFung> But they're away... :~~~
<vincent> Sammy, I'd like a list of the current committes and helpers list, too.
<vincent> :)
<SammyFung> But they went away.
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<SammyFung> I already wrote.
<SammyFung> I just didn't send it out right now.
<voidoo> back
<SammyFung> voidoo, may you take a post ? (good... you're back)
<vincent> And I think, for helpers position: Web Developer, Promotor, Article writers, we should ask all people 
  are they interested. :)
<SammyFung> Ha Ha
<voidoo> no, too busy
<SammyFung> What's a excellent answer ! Ha !
<voidoo> may be it's something should said by old guys
<deathscythe> :O
<vincent> Sammy, we should ask all people who is interested to these helper jobs. :)
<voidoo> I just want to concern the group can really do sth for HK Linux user
<G-Force> Thanks. old guy....
<vincent> I'm sure we can.
<SammyFung> I sent the list.
<SammyFung> You may check it from your mailbox.
<SammyFung> It will forwarded by hklug@animenet.com.hk
<deathscythe> ..
<SammyFung>        ^ be
<vincent> Try our best, looking forward to our dream, we can be success! :)
<SammyFung> Ha... We may add above sentences to our pages...
<SammyFung> Ha !
<vincent> :)
<Jacky> Linux should be anyone's OS in the future!
* [DoM] Gotta goto bed now.. yell me if there have nother meeting. cya
<Jacky> cya Dom
<[DoM]> bibi..:O~~
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<vincent> Well I think, HK people shouldn't be that bad, we must group them together. If we don't do that, no one 
  will do that. :)
<SammyFung> OK, I think our conference should be ended tonight. Ha !
<vincent> Think more sentense like these. :)
<SammyFung> But we may keep our chat about Linux on this channel.
<voidoo> my char is like to throw idea but never take any respond :P haha
<Jacky> HKLUG is the pioneer 8D
<vincent> voidoo: it's already a great contribution for us, let we do the rest. :)
<SammyFung> Meiosis BBS.
<Jacky> what?!
<SammyFung> 2651-12xx
<SammyFung> Tai Po
<Jacky> Oh!!!
<vincent> ?
<SammyFung> Xxxxy Wu
<Jacky> I am the SysOp!!
<Jacky> who know me?!
<SammyFung> End of infomation provided by my InterMail.
<voidoo> yes,
<Jacky> Yap!!
<voidoo> do you like to have a meeting in real life?
<SammyFung> Yes, sure...
<vincent> Yeah.
<voidoo> I think is is better
<SammyFung> But I am wait for chance.
<Jacky> Let's call the TV media
<SammyFung> And camara should be prepared.
<vincent> This kind of meeting should be a more freely meeting. 
<deathscythe> i think we shoud have a 定期 meeting in real life....
<SammyFung> Or, we may ask SingTao or HKET to come and having an interview.
<Jacky> Yeah!!
<Jacky> ALso CompuAge
<voidoo> it is hand do thing, if you don't know others working style
<deathscythe> :O
<SammyFung> Let's see our handsome Vincent.
<SammyFung> Ha !
<voidoo>          hard to
<vincent> Me? I look badly! :)
<SammyFung> Hard to attend or... ? voidoo
<SammyFung> I look worsat..
<SammyFung> Ok...
<SammyFung> Next meeting...
<vincent> Saturday 8:00pm la.
<voidoo> ev
<Jacky> okay!!!!
<SammyFung> When should next meeting be held ? On IRC or On the McDonald... or On some company ?
<Jacky> Friday 8:00 pm HKT
<vincent> In truth...
<vincent> Formal meeting is better in IRC..
<vincent> You can prepare the materials much better...
<SammyFung> Any suggestion are all welcome... Let's give more comments.
<voidoo> may be.
<voidoo> a long speak
<Jacky> can we open a newsgroup in starforum?
<voidoo> may be I post my idea later on the forum
<vincent> I dunno whether everyone will prepare enough materials in a real meeting... :P
<voidoo> haha
<deathscythe> :O
<vincent> Yes, we need your ideas, voidoo. :)
<SammyFung> I just can prepare agenda for minute...
<SammyFung> ..... for meeting I mean...
<vincent> Official idea provider. :)
<voidoo> thanks
<SammyFung> No, if we would like to open an newsgroup.
<SammyFung> We should open hk.comp.os.linux or hk.comp.hklug or hk.hklug somethings likes this,
<vincent> I saw hk.comp.os.linux in HKStar...
<Jacky> should we register our HKLUG?
<SammyFung> vincent: I think you mean hk.comp.os.unix ?
<voidoo> also, full use of hk.comp.os.unix if possible
<SammyFung> Jacky ? You mean registration under Societies Ordinance ?
<vincent> voidoo: If we can clear all the crossposts.
<Jacky> It should be a legal computer society
<Jacky> Yes!!
<voidoo> vincent
<SammyFung> Yes, as I remember, I remember that 1 of us are operating hk.comp.os.unix
<deathscythe> ......
<vincent> I see these in hkstar's tin:
<SammyFung> But I forgot who is handling it...
<vincent>  1  3291  hk.comp.chinese
<vincent>        2  1952  hk.comp.hacker
<vincent>        3   199  hk.comp.os.linux
<vincent>        4  8368  hk.comp.pc
<vincent>        5  2793  hk.comp.software
<vincent> linux!?!?
<SammyFung> Oh...
<deathscythe> .....
<deathscythe> .......
<voidoo> hk.comp.os.linux is not a offical NGs
<voidoo> so many news server don't have it
<vincent> so HKStar create it?
<vincent> o... 
<voidoo> thats why I write the RFD to bring up hk.comp.os.unix
<vincent> Ok..
<voidoo> it is lucky that it got 50 vote to be a real newsgroups
<voidoo> but be said they crosspost is killing it.
<deathscythe> ...
<vincent> We can get 50 people from Hong Kong easily.. :)
<voidoo> it is not easy if you saw the vote result of the NGs.
<vincent> why??
<deathscythe> o_o;
<vincent> If we ask our members to vote it?
<voidoo> just to got 50 votes
<G-Force> HK just need one newsgroup....  :(
<SammyFung> But I think it is not 100% of our members to vote it.
<voidoo> if miss one, the group won't be here
<vincent> what if the 50 votes are all from the same domain name?
<vincent> :)
<vincent> :):):):)
<voidoo> and you know I hav
<Jacky> should we apply for a domain name?  hklug.org
<vincent> .org? quite expensive...ah...
<deathscythe> .org.hk ...?
<Jacky> or org.hk  cheaper
<vincent> Is today's meeting ended?
<voidoo> just leave if for later, it think
<vincent> like chatting ...
<vincent> (I leave a while then...)
<Jacky> who will be the host of the web site?
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<deathscythe> !?
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<vincent> Temporary, in animenet..
<SammyFung> Yes, in animenet.net.hk
<Jacky> yes.
<vincent> I hope we can find a sponsor from an ISP in the future.
<Jacky> I can help you.. =)
<SammyFung> HKLUG Temporary homepage is located at animenet.net.hk
<vincent> animenet's bandwidth is not enough for so many groups. :)
<SammyFung> i-wave ? Ha !
<vincent> We SHOULD be able to put a STANDALONE server in that network.
<SammyFung> What can you help us, Jacky ?
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<vincent> And prefer a larger ISP.. :)
<vincent> What can you help us? Jacky?
<voidoo> may be you can contact back huge net
<Jacky> find a website provider
<voidoo> the prev host of Old HKLUG
<vincent> No.. I prefer a standalone HOST.
<vincent> That we have total control.
<Jacky> we should build a web server at our home..
<Jacky> 24hrs internet connection?!
<Jacky> unique IP?
<vincent> For now, I own the animenet server machine wor..
<vincent> It'll be lack for fexibility if we put our page in a hosting site.
<voidoo> then just live it
<Jacky> yes!
<voidoo> even hknug only host in hkstar
<G-Force> vincent... the line is 64k?
<vincent> 128k as I remember.
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<Jacky> how much is it?
<vincent> $0. My friend has special relationship with the internal. :)
<G-Force> animenet.net.hk mine we use the line or not?
<SammyFung> Or...
<SammyFung> IWe may collect some money... Haa...
<Jacky> Oh! That's good!
<SammyFung> but it is quite impossible.
<voidoo> any
<vincent> Prefer not. 
<voidoo> give out an year plan first
<SammyFung> Because we are lack of members now.
<voidoo> when you would like to do in the comming year
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<SammyFung> Remember, the chatting is not offiacl now.
<Jacky> we should build a homepage first and attract more new member!
<vincent> Voidoo, it's good, but we must think very clear for the year plan.
<G-Force> about domain ? why don't use ml.org?
<voidoo> how to promote Linux. and group others Linux user
<vincent> why not hklug.org.hk then? :)
<Jacky> hklug.org.hk
<vincent> it's only $250 a year...
<Jacky> or hklug.org 50US a year
<G-Force> ml.org for free...
<deathscythe> .....
<Jacky> it is site re-direction
<vincent> hehe.. I prefer our own domain name for a little fee. More professional.
<vincent> We're not CHEAP organization, right?
<Jacky> how about simplenet.com ?
<vincent> We're proud of being a HKLUG member, we have latest knowledge in Internet! :)
<Jacky> we can have hklug.simplenet.com
<deathscythe> ........
<voidoo> a Linux user also know how to use the less resouce to do the biggest thing
<vincent> But register a domain name is really that simple, fast and cheap...
<Jacky> yes!
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<vincent> (I mean hklug.org.hk) :)
<Jacky> yes!
<deathscythe> ......
<vincent> What now? We're doing chatting...
<voidoo> just do some other thing first
<voidoo> domain name can be talke later
<voidoo> if we can do it well
<vincent> If we've assigned committes, then we can work in groups individually.
<voidoo> it is easy to have a free host
<vincent> Yes, talking about the multi-homed homepage..
* SammyFung is eating.
<vincent> Everyone responsible to their own part...
<vincent> Perhaps for a specific topic it will link to that respondent's homepage?
<voidoo> ok, I think I need to quit now
<voidoo> need to draw some button for my boss
<voidoo> (life is hard)
<vincent> erh.. ok..
<voidoo> may be I post my idea later
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<voidoo> by :)
<voidoo> bye
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<Jacky> bye bye!
<vincent> I think it's the end of our meeting today.
<Jacky> okay..
<vincent> Cya all!
<Jacky> cya!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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